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WOODFORD GREEN: Doctor defends MMR jab research
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| Prof Walker-Smith outside the hearing |
A DOCTOR involved in controversial research linking the MMR vaccine with autism has defended his work at a medical tribunal.
Professor John Walker-Smith, of Monkhams Drive in Woodford Green, along with colleagues Prof Simon Murch of Tooting and Dr Andrew Wakefield, who now lives in the USA, all deny serious professional misconduct.
The General Medical Council tribunal heard how the men carried out "invasive" procedures on young children - spinal taps' and colonoscopy procedures - while investigating their theory that the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine (MMR) could be linked with a rise in cases of autism in the UK.
The hearing was told of previous cases when some doctors had rejected such painful methods as unnecessary.
Taking the stand, Prof Walker-Smith said: "None of the tests would have been conducted if they were not considered necessary.
"I was fascinated by the possibility that something might be done to unearth what was going on, and in the future down the line to help the children in their plight."
He added: "But that was secondary to the primary concern of getting care for them."
| "None of the tests would have been conducted if they were not considered necessary." | | Prof John Walker-Smith |
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The doctors' original research attracted huge controversy when it was first published in medical journal The Lancet back in 1998.
Their influential claims led to a drop in the number of parents putting their children forward for the vaccine nationwide, and in Redbridge the numbers receiving the MMR jab dropped from 90 per cent in 1998 to a low of 72 per cent in 2005, coinciding with a steep rise in the number of cases.
The men's findings have since been emphatically rejected by bodies such as the British Medical Journal, the Medical Research Council and the Department for Health.
Co-defendant Dr Wakefield also stands accused of paying children at his son's birthday party £5 each for blood samples while he was conducting his research and "joking" about it afterwards at a medical conference.
Outside, dozens of protestors fiercely defended the doctor and his research, claiming he was the victim of a "witch hunt".
The men face being struck off the medical register in the UK if found guilty.
The hearing continues.
2:58pm Friday 28th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: mr khalid, walthamstow on 3:35pm Fri 28 Mar 08
all this pepal making hot air bout this mmr inject. no problam with this many chidren have this inject no problam. blaming this mmr on autist kid but this meybe cosed by other thing like drug drinking eat rubish foods and meybe other thing. blame this for no evdance and asking composations for what? mmr ok 99parcent meybe this autist make from drug other
all this pepal making hot air bout this mmr inject. no problam with this many chidren have this inject no problam. blaming this mmr on autist kid but this meybe cosed by other thing like drug drinking eat rubish foods and meybe other thing. blame this for no evdance and asking composations for what? mmr ok 99parcent meybe this autist make from drug other
Posted by: jack, walthamstow on 5:23pm Fri 28 Mar 08
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly
Posted by: Adrian, Upshire on 5:30pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]jack[/bold] wrote:
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly[/quote] You are a fine one to mention spelling! Your grammer is terrible. Pot Calling kettle? Fool.
jack wrote:
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly
You are a fine one to mention spelling! Your grammer is terrible. Pot Calling kettle? Fool.
Posted by: Mary, Hackney on 5:32pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Punctuation is worse!
Posted by: Obsderver on 6:05pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]mr khalid[/bold] wrote:
all this pepal making hot air bout this mmr inject. no problam with this many chidren have this inject no problam. blaming this mmr on autist kid but this meybe cosed by other thing like drug drinking eat rubish foods and meybe other thing. blame this for no evdance and asking composations for what? mmr ok 99parcent meybe this autist make from drug other[/quote] Wally.
mr khalid wrote:
all this pepal making hot air bout this mmr inject. no problam with this many chidren have this inject no problam. blaming this mmr on autist kid but this meybe cosed by other thing like drug drinking eat rubish foods and meybe other thing. blame this for no evdance and asking composations for what? mmr ok 99parcent meybe this autist make from drug other
Wally.
Posted by: Henry, High Beach on 6:25pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Obsderver[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mr khalid[/bold] wrote: all this pepal making hot air bout this mmr inject. no problam with this many chidren have this inject no problam. blaming this mmr on autist kid but this meybe cosed by other thing like drug drinking eat rubish foods and meybe other thing. blame this for no evdance and asking composations for what? mmr ok 99parcent meybe this autist make from drug other[/quote] Wally.[/quote] I think you are the biggest Wally 'Observer' as he has at least commented on the story in question. You seem to be just saying 'wally' these days? Well I have a comment to make in any event: I have had all my children treated with the MMR jab, without any side effects. I know numerous other friends and family who have also had their children immunised with this too. Again no side effects. In this 'blame someone' culture of compensation claims etc it is invariably likely that an identified case of autism is attributed to something be it an immunisation, grandfather working with asbestos and other substances for example. This Doctors theory was pure speculation. It did not help when people like Blair would not come clean as to whether or not he had his kids immunised.
Obsderver wrote:
mr khalid wrote: all this pepal making hot air bout this mmr inject. no problam with this many chidren have this inject no problam. blaming this mmr on autist kid but this meybe cosed by other thing like drug drinking eat rubish foods and meybe other thing. blame this for no evdance and asking composations for what? mmr ok 99parcent meybe this autist make from drug other
Wally.
I think you are the biggest Wally 'Observer' as he has at least commented on the story in question. You seem to be just saying 'wally' these days? Well I have a comment to make in any event: I have had all my children treated with the MMR jab, without any side effects. I know numerous other friends and family who have also had their children immunised with this too. Again no side effects. In this 'blame someone' culture of compensation claims etc it is invariably likely that an identified case of autism is attributed to something be it an immunisation, grandfather working with asbestos and other substances for example. This Doctors theory was pure speculation. It did not help when people like Blair would not come clean as to whether or not he had his kids immunised.
Posted by: md250, ilford on 10:06pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Adrian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jack[/bold] wrote:
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly[/quote] You are a fine one to mention spelling! Your grammer is terrible. Pot Calling kettle? Fool.[/quote] you can sod off mate, khallid and the other e17 retard who regularly infests this site and ruins most threads can go to hell.
then you come along and add exactly nothing
go and do one
Adrian wrote:
jack wrote:
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly
You are a fine one to mention spelling! Your grammer is terrible. Pot Calling kettle? Fool.
you can sod off mate, khallid and the other e17 retard who regularly infests this site and ruins most threads can go to hell.
then you come along and add exactly nothing
go and do one
Posted by: Mark, Loughton on 8:40am Sat 29 Mar 08
And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother?
And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother?
Posted by: chris,essex on 11:44am Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Mark[/bold] wrote:
And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother? [/quote] Sorry to have to point it out Mark, but are not you guilty of just the same things?
Mark wrote:
And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother?
Sorry to have to point it out Mark, but are not you guilty of just the same things?
Posted by: Mark, Loughton on 12:01pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chris,essex[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Mark[/bold] wrote: And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother? [/quote] Sorry to have to point it out Mark, but are not you guilty of just the same things?[/quote] Once. You are right but all you get from him is this constant barrage of racist attack and negative comment unrelated to the story line and he has drawn me into his depressing world now. You are right Chris.
chris,essex wrote:
Mark wrote: And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother?
Sorry to have to point it out Mark, but are not you guilty of just the same things?
Once. You are right but all you get from him is this constant barrage of racist attack and negative comment unrelated to the story line and he has drawn me into his depressing world now. You are right Chris.
Posted by: Joe, Woodford on 12:17pm Sat 29 Mar 08
This is the biggest load of hype I have ever heard. There is nothing wrong with the MMR jab. Some kids are unfortunately born with defects. People always want to blame someone as Khalid says. All about having a claim up these days and using any old excuse.
This is the biggest load of hype I have ever heard. There is nothing wrong with the MMR jab. Some kids are unfortunately born with defects. People always want to blame someone as Khalid says. All about having a claim up these days and using any old excuse.
Posted by: md250, ilford on 1:00pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Mark[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]chris,essex[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Mark[/bold] wrote: And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother? [/quote] Sorry to have to point it out Mark, but are not you guilty of just the same things?[/quote] Once. You are right but all you get from him is this constant barrage of racist attack and negative comment unrelated to the story line and he has drawn me into his depressing world now. You are right Chris. [/quote] DEPRESSING WORLD, HA HA,
YOU KEEP READING KHALLIDS COBBLERS, IF THT MAKES YOU HAPPY.
HE HAS HIJACKED AN ENTERTAINING SITE AND TURNED IT INTO A FARCE.
Mark wrote:
chris,essex wrote:
Mark wrote: And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother?
Sorry to have to point it out Mark, but are not you guilty of just the same things?
Once. You are right but all you get from him is this constant barrage of racist attack and negative comment unrelated to the story line and he has drawn me into his depressing world now. You are right Chris.
DEPRESSING WORLD, HA HA,
YOU KEEP READING KHALLIDS COBBLERS, IF THT MAKES YOU HAPPY.
HE HAS HIJACKED AN ENTERTAINING SITE AND TURNED IT INTO A FARCE.
Posted by: John, Paris France on 1:57pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Yes about 499 get the MMR without ANY problems.
So what do we do the 500th that gets autism.
Just call 'em a liar it seems?
Yes about 499 get the MMR without ANY problems.
So what do we do the 500th that gets autism.
Just call 'em a liar it seems?
Posted by: Gavin, Buckhurst Hill on 2:09pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
Yes about 499 get the MMR without ANY problems. So what do we do the 500th that gets autism. Just call 'em a liar it seems?[/quote] No proof. Half the mothers been on a drink and drug diet BEFORE conceiving then want to blame it on MMR. Kids conceived from blend of lager, cocaine and cannabis equally donated from the parents
John wrote:
Yes about 499 get the MMR without ANY problems. So what do we do the 500th that gets autism. Just call 'em a liar it seems?
No proof. Half the mothers been on a drink and drug diet BEFORE conceiving then want to blame it on MMR. Kids conceived from blend of lager, cocaine and cannabis equally donated from the parents
Posted by: Dawn, London on 7:57pm Sun 30 Mar 08
[quote][bold]md250[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Adrian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jack[/bold] wrote:
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly[/quote] You are a fine one to mention spelling! Your grammer is terrible. Pot Calling kettle? Fool.[/quote] you can sod off mate, khallid and the other e17 retard who regularly infests this site and ruins most threads can go to hell.
then you come along and add exactly nothing
go and do one [/quote] E17 retard md250? What a nice person you are! Perhaps you should stick to the topic like I do!
On topic:
MD250
I suggest you don't bother having your kids vaccinated and hopefully the laws of natural selection will have there way.
md250 wrote:
Adrian wrote:
jack wrote:
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly
You are a fine one to mention spelling! Your grammer is terrible. Pot Calling kettle? Fool.
you can sod off mate, khallid and the other e17 retard who regularly infests this site and ruins most threads can go to hell.
then you come along and add exactly nothing
go and do one
E17 retard md250? What a nice person you are! Perhaps you should stick to the topic like I do!
On topic:
MD250
I suggest you don't bother having your kids vaccinated and hopefully the laws of natural selection will have there way.
Posted by: md250, ilford on 2:39pm Mon 31 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Dawn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]md250[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Adrian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jack[/bold] wrote:
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly[/quote] You are a fine one to mention spelling! Your grammer is terrible. Pot Calling kettle? Fool.[/quote] you can sod off mate, khallid and the other e17 retard who regularly infests this site and ruins most threads can go to hell.
then you come along and add exactly nothing
go and do one [/quote] E17 retard md250? What a nice person you are! Perhaps you should stick to the topic like I do!
On topic:
MD250
I suggest you don't bother having your kids vaccinated and hopefully the laws of natural selection will have there way. [/quote] dawn, your clueless,my language is in frustration of khallids inane and pointless replies, if he really is that illiterate, he wouldnt be able to read the text in the stories, so its a wind up.
the topics have long been hijackd by fools
have a nice day
Dawn wrote:
md250 wrote:
Adrian wrote:
jack wrote:
doesnt mr khalid know how to spell properly
You are a fine one to mention spelling! Your grammer is terrible. Pot Calling kettle? Fool.
you can sod off mate, khallid and the other e17 retard who regularly infests this site and ruins most threads can go to hell.
then you come along and add exactly nothing
go and do one
E17 retard md250? What a nice person you are! Perhaps you should stick to the topic like I do!
On topic:
MD250
I suggest you don't bother having your kids vaccinated and hopefully the laws of natural selection will have there way.
dawn, your clueless,my language is in frustration of khallids inane and pointless replies, if he really is that illiterate, he wouldnt be able to read the text in the stories, so its a wind up.
the topics have long been hijackd by fools
have a nice day
Posted by: Mark, Loughton on 7:48am Fri 4 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Mark[/bold] wrote:
And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother? [/quote] md250 - this is not the Mark that has posted on the site previously, just to be clear...
Mark wrote:
And what contribution have you MD 250 (what a stupid robotic name) and 'Observer' made. Throwing insults every posting is your only contribution. If you cannot say anything constructive why bother?
md250 - this is not the Mark that has posted on the site previously, just to be clear...
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